slemslempike: (games: scrabble)
slemslempike ([personal profile] slemslempike) wrote2007-11-07 03:18 pm
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I may watch too much television

[Poll #1084483]

I think the main thing that would make teaching immeasurably better is if the students didn't. to a woman, have much better skin than me. I demand a return to spotty eighteen year olds!

When I was younger and watching Fist of Fun on TV, I thought Stewart Lee was the most beautiful man who ever lived. Then a few years later, watching This Morning With Richard Not Judy, I still liked him (obviously) but decided that it must have been a childish infatuation and he was perfectly normal looking. In the last few weeks I watched the FoF live video, and I wasn't wrong, I wasn't. He was heavenly.

[identity profile] badbadbookworm.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Option five: Kill it with fire. I'm clawing my own eyes out here.

[identity profile] wonderlanded.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Whereas it took me at least two years of living here not to have the same reaction to the British pronunciation of "forehead", "yoghurt" and "vitamin".

[identity profile] cellardor.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Please describe to me how you would pronounce those. How can forehead be pronounced any other way? Am intrigued. :)

[identity profile] cellardor.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's how I would pronounce it. Only posh people say for-head...don't they?

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I say for-head! I am not very posh though. Just southern. But then I recently found out that I've been mispronouncing "labia", so I am not the best judge of body parts.

[identity profile] cellardor.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I am Northern so therefore my language is corrupted (or best, depending on which side you're looking at it from). And go on then, how should I be pronouncing labia, just in case?

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think it's supposed to be lab (like laboratory, rhyming with crab [that's an unfortunate link]) - ear (like the ears on your head).

I have been saying lay (like lay-by) - bee - a (short a. bee+a is a bit like saying beard but stopping before the d).

I am going to have to find out properly now.

[identity profile] cellardor.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the way I think of it as I've been reading this (the lab one). Yes, to Google! Or Dictionary.com, or something.
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[identity profile] spiralsheep.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The OED prefers lay-bee-um for the singular.

Caveat: the OED reflects popular usage not necessarily correctly Latinate pronuciation.

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[identity profile] wonderlanded.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't hear anything but "fore-head" which I always just assumed was an American pronunciation til I moved here, maybe it's regional?

[identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, ditto - I've never met an English person who says 'forr-ead', whereas both English and Americans say 'fore-head'.

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[identity profile] wonderlanded.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Forehead is really the weird one for me. For Australians, it basically rhymes with "horrid" if the word was spelt "horred". Think it was an earlier pronunciation from some parts of the UK that changed here but not in Australia.

Yoghurt is YO (the first half of yo-yo)-ghurt.

And vitamin is VIE-ta-min.

Autre pays, etc...

[identity profile] cellardor.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That's closer to the way I would say it if I was in Yorkshire I suppose (the forehead one).

The yogurt and vitamin sound like the American way I think.

[identity profile] tabouli.livejournal.com 2007-11-08 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
According to my chemist father, VIE-tamin is the correct way to say vitamin, because the word's a contraction of "vital amine". No idea on yoghurt, though.

[identity profile] cellardor.livejournal.com 2007-11-08 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
We don't really do the 'correct' way in Yorkshire, it's said however we feel like it, usually in the shortest way possible. :)

[identity profile] wonderlanded.livejournal.com 2007-11-08 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
That's usually the way the Australians do it, too....

[identity profile] badbadbookworm.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
But we INVENTED foreheads, yoghurt and vitamins. (Ok, we didn't, but you know what I mean).

[identity profile] wonderlanded.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
And we invented a very useful usage of "confronting". So, there we go.

[identity profile] badbadbookworm.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Touche.

For the record I say for-head and lay-bia and am not posh.

[identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm worrying about how I say "forehead". I think I say "fore-head". Do I? I sometimes say "fore-'ead", I think, but I think of "forred" as Northern English.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Option five to what? The question's about whether or not you've heard the word used before, not people's reactions to it!

I quite like it myself though. As [livejournal.com profile] wonderlanded's helpfully pointed out above, it doesn't fulfill the same function as confrontational, and when I've heard it used it's not in a situation where I can easily think of a synonym. And I'm all for increasing vocabulary - though as a descriptive grammarian rather than prescriptive (...most of the time...) I would say that.

[identity profile] badbadbookworm.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Nyeah...I TRY to be descriptive not proscriptive, and I'm forever lecturing my dad about assimilation being the greatest strength of the English language, but certain neologisms make me want to go and have a little lie down.

Sorry to invade your LJ, by the way, I just thought this looked like an interesting thread.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Not at all - all welcome! And it's nice to have all views.

Yes, a more accurate description of my stance is "trying" as well - I do have my blind spots of rage. But I think because I see confronting as filling a gap that no other word adequately covers, and not taking away from anything, I'm okay with it.

[identity profile] badbadbookworm.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll have a little lie down and a small glass of water and see if I can come to terms with it.