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slemslempike ([personal profile] slemslempike) wrote2008-12-05 03:15 pm
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If clothing designers say their outfits look best while jumping off a bridge, do we do that too?

I found this site linked through Hoyden About Town.

Two further things I hated are:

1. "Our bras are designed to position the breasts halfway between the shoulder and the elbow, which is what clothing designers intended."

Yes. Definitely the solution to this problem of clothes not fitting is for bodies to fit the whims of the designers, not to encourage designers to recognise that there is no one body size and shape and maybe there could be a broader range of fits and styles.

2. "You cannot slouch in our bras."

I DO NOT WANT CLOTHES IN WHICH I CANNOT SLOUCH. I like slouching. I know it's not "attractive", (and probably makes clothing designers really mad) but that doesn't say "comfort" to me, it says "constricting".


Our windows are in. But I don't have a curtain rail anymore, something to do with the supports being too brittle. Which is fine, we can get a new one. But I don't know how to put it up and I'm worried I'll do it wrong and it will all break.

[identity profile] metamorphosa.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't ever had perky breasts. Not even before I had children. I like close-fitting clothes, but I would like them to enhance *my* natural shape. My pet peeve is when people wear clothes purely because they're fashionable regardless of whether they compliment their figure (whatever shape their figure may be).

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no - I disagree with that last point! I think that the whole discourse around clothes having to compliment a figure does tie in very strongly with control over women's appearance, and people should be allowed to wear what they want without people sniffing at them. I have a friend who used to go on at me about how a pencil skirt would be "flattering" on me, but since I like a-line or flared skirts, that's what I wear, and frankly I couldn't care less if it offends someone's sensibilities over what I "should" be wearing.

[identity profile] metamorphosa.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
You're quite right. I fail on that point in principle. In my own defense, I have never ever sniffed at anybody for their choice, and have never told anybody what they should or shouldn't wear. It's like... I look at raw form and see beauty in it, whether it be a tree, an animal, a landscape, or the many human figures. I like to be able to see that, but I'm well aware that is my own perception and that everybody else will have a different definition of beauty and also have the right to not be driven by beauty, too.

I suppose the impotus behind my statement was the comment about fashion, and how people wear things purely because they're told to even aside from the misguided belief of it being the definition of what is 'attractive'. I've a lot of time for people who actually like fashionable clothes and wear them regardless of how they look in them because then they are of their own mind, than I am for people to choose them just because.
(ETA and even that sounds wrong. I give up. This is why I normally keep all of this in my head!).

What can I say, I word things badly. It's a thing of mine.
Edited 2008-12-05 19:38 (UTC)

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2008-12-05 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I think that you were perfectly clear, and I didn't read properly because I was jumping on my own hobby-horse!

In fact I do agree with you about fashion, and that's a really good distinction between people wearing them regardless, or just because. I think I just get annoyed with fashion pages talking about rules for body types even if you don't like things, which isn't what you were doing, as I can now see!