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slemslempike ([personal profile] slemslempike) wrote2011-03-31 10:31 am
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A thing I feel I should know

The phrase "UK PLC". At first I thought it was a way of moaning about the way the country is run like a business instead of a country (sort of like people saying Bliar instead of Blair), and then I got the impression that UK PLC was an actual thing, like the business arm of the UK, and now I am just confused. It's not a real thing, is it? Googling says that UK PLC is a company that specialises in web domains. I would like to know what people mean when they say it, and also the sort of people that do say it so I can form ill-judged opinions more readily.

[identity profile] glitterboy1.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
It usually seems to be used as a collective term for UK companies. (e.g. here). I don't think it's necessarily pejorative.

[Edited because that unclosed parenthesis was going to annoy me.]
Edited 2011-03-31 09:43 (UTC)

[identity profile] snowballjane.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I've found uses of it back to 1985 and at that point it's mostly being used by Conservative chancellors and opinion writers to argue pro-running the country like a business or as a vague metaphor about net flow of money in/out of the country as a profit/loss account. Until the 90s it seems to appear in "scare quotes" in press stories, but gradually just becomes used as a shorthand for "the whole of UK business".

[identity profile] peeeeeeet.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I would concur with what other peeps are saying. Now you've got me wondering how appropriate it is - can a nation be "limited liability"? Could shareholders in it lose more than their original stake? I suppose so, but it depends on how you define a shareholder. If it's merely an aggregate of all shareholders then fair enough. But I tend to think of it as describing Britain being run as a business, so it would include public spending and revenue as well...

[identity profile] gair.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Completely irrelevant, sorry, but did you see this comment on the gendered use of 'fun' in children's advertising over on [livejournal.com profile] steepholm's LJ?

[identity profile] ankaret.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I mostly remember it as a thing that vaguely Jeremy Clarksonish plonkers used to say at parties in the 90s, causing me to back away from them rapidly.

[identity profile] the_antichris.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
NZ Inc. is a stupid term used by stupid right-wing parties and commentators to say, without actually saying it, 'We should run the country like a business! And fire all unproductive people!' (By sending all elderly people etc. to Stewart Island, one presumes.) 'UK PLC' as a shorthand for 'all UK business' sounds slightly more reasonable.