slemslempike: (discworld: can't be having)
slemslempike ([personal profile] slemslempike) wrote2009-07-23 07:16 pm
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Rape jokes, poster

Further to Ellie Levenson's blanket approval of rape jokes, I really like this post by fugitivus about rape jokes. It's from a month or so ago, and I'm afraid I forget where I saw it being linked.

The other day at university I took this poster down from the women's toilet:



The smaller text says "text DRINK" to the NHS number. I discovered while googling for that that it's from 2006, which makes me feel slightly better, though I don't know why.

It makes me absolutely furious, this kind of victim-blaming shit, done under the guise of "we're helping women to protect themselves". Even if the problem were women's behaviour, this kind of campiagn doesn't change their behaviour, it just makes them feel that they are guilty if something does happen.

[identity profile] notmarcie.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I mught make my own poster campaign. 100% of rapes happen when the rapist choses to rape somebody.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That doesn't really fit with the core theme of making women responsible for what happens to them. Next you'll be pointing out that there might be a correlation bewteen the perpetrator's alcohol consumption and rape!
jinty: (amulet)

That link was posted in the comments to EL's F-word blog post

[personal profile] jinty 2009-07-23 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
but I didn't read it till just now. It is indeed very good.

Re: That link was posted in the comments to EL's F-word blog post

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought I'd seen in linked from a blog post (I haven't read the F-word comments since I posted), but probably it is there. Thanks!

[identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I discovered while googling for that that it's from 2006, which makes me feel slightly better, though I don't know why.

Worse, surely, because either it's been up for 3 years and nobody objected, or someone dug out a 3-year-old offensive-as-shit poster and put it up because they really thought it hit the spot. Ugh.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a very low-traffic area of the university where not many students go, and I was sort of figuring that at least it wasn't a new campaign that I was going to have to start doing something about in all the toilets. But yes, that nobody'd taken it down before, that's fairly shit.

[identity profile] irrtum.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I do like that post. I ought to link to it on my facebook, where my former final-year colleagues are merrily joking about people raping their facebooks.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I came over all un-non-judgemental in my focus groups when they started talking about facebook rape. Frape!!!

[identity profile] whatsagirlgotta.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to say I'm glad they've brought this one out, I know its not the same topic, but I'm glad they've redressed the imbalance of this one now.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Wow - look at the difference in user comments - "whores will be whores", vs "hot boy", "looks like he had a good night".

[identity profile] whatsagirlgotta.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh...wow I didn't actually think to check the comments when I'd worked out I'd found the right ads but those are awful. I think I was so pleased they'd finally decided to bring out a male version instead of just being all pah women and drink they bring it on themselves I just stopped at that.

[identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah - I think it is good that they've got a male version too, and I suppose they can't really be held responsible for youtube idiot comments, but it is part of how the attitudes to drink and gender are so different that parity isn't really a sufficient answer.

[identity profile] whatsagirlgotta.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
re the comments true, and yes I think you're right. The fact that its taken so long for the male version to come out is testament to that. I think they really need one in the same style about street harrasment and inappropriate sexual behaviours to show what pissed up laddish behaviours feel like for the person on the receiving end.

[identity profile] notmarcie.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw this and thought of you
Time For a Good Scrap Levenson related.