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I found this site linked through Hoyden About Town.

Two further things I hated are:

1. "Our bras are designed to position the breasts halfway between the shoulder and the elbow, which is what clothing designers intended."

Yes. Definitely the solution to this problem of clothes not fitting is for bodies to fit the whims of the designers, not to encourage designers to recognise that there is no one body size and shape and maybe there could be a broader range of fits and styles.

2. "You cannot slouch in our bras."

I DO NOT WANT CLOTHES IN WHICH I CANNOT SLOUCH. I like slouching. I know it's not "attractive", (and probably makes clothing designers really mad) but that doesn't say "comfort" to me, it says "constricting".


Our windows are in. But I don't have a curtain rail anymore, something to do with the supports being too brittle. Which is fine, we can get a new one. But I don't know how to put it up and I'm worried I'll do it wrong and it will all break.

Date: 2008-12-05 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I hear the word “toxins” and reach for my gun.

Clothes designers/manufacturers do have to choose a position for the "bust point" of their basic fit, just as they choose a torso length, but this is not universal and will depend on who the garment is designed for - Topshop will use a higher point than M&S Classic Collection. But it's a silly thing to advertise a bra with, given that it is of considerably less issue to non-standard women buying clothes (only very fitted clothes) than breast size itself. The bra advert I have hated most was one in Debenhams that said a properly fitted bra increased the look of cup size as much as plastic surgery. So much Wrong!

Date: 2008-12-05 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
Guns are no match for toxins! Toxins are well-known to be the most deadly of all weapons!

I do see that there has to be a point for fitted tops and the like, it's, as you say, just a silly advertising point.

But ALL women want larger breasts! ALL OF THEM/US.

Date: 2008-12-05 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I was amused by "if you don't wear a bra, your lymphatic system won't work". I mean, I know that the human body has some pretty major flaws in it (who on earth put the "intelligent" into "intelligent design"?), but I'm pretty sure that if all our bra-less ancestors suffered chronic oedema, we'd have addressed that at some point in evolution.

Date: 2008-12-06 05:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] owl
My mother always says the opposite, which seems more sensible to me--if you have a band that's tight enough not to move, you'd think that it would be squashing your lymph ducts as well. Is that not why you're meant to take your bra off at night?

Date: 2008-12-06 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
It doesn't seem a good idea to wear constricting clothing that constricts in the same place 24 hours a day simply for the sake of the skin. But trying to think about where the bits of the lymphatic system actually are, I don't think that a tight band would restrict it, because the band basically goes round the ribs, and the ribs are on the 'outside' of the body, as it were, with vessels inside them.

Ah, Google points me to some bad science - it looks like this one is an urban myth.

Date: 2008-12-05 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pescana.livejournal.com
But ALL women want larger breasts! ALL OF THEM/US.

I certainly don't! But then I pretty much fail at the whole 'striving to match society's standards for women' thing, so this should not be a surprise.

Date: 2008-12-05 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
If I had larger breasts then it would be even more difficult to find nice bras than it already is. And they'd get in the way. And hurt my back. And, more importantly, not be any better than the body I already have.

Date: 2008-12-05 07:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
I'm well past the nice bra point (though from what I can tell larger bras are less of a chore to find in the UK, where presumably fewer people need them) and definitely do not want them larger.

I adore the way you dress and carry yourself. It has an artless elegance about it that doesn't just look comfortable, it encourages comfort in others.

Date: 2008-12-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
Oh, that's nice of you! It might not be everyone's idea of a compliment, but I am very happy to think that I might encourage comfort in others.

Date: 2008-12-05 11:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
Whew! It was absolutely intended as a compliment/honest assessment.

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