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I feel that this is a bad idea: book headboard.

1) It is basically a collecting ground for dust, which is exactly what you want above your head while you're sleeping.

2) It's going to get dirty/torn very easily.

3) The first time you sit up in bed you'll bed and fold bits of pages and it'll look rubbish. The project's from a year ago, I bet it looks really tatty now.

4) It just seems like a warning to other books. I bet the ones you read in bed wouldn't like it, having to stare over your shoulder at its comrades, with pages that could once flutter in the breeze nailed flat to a wall.

(Though if you are going to do that I suppose they've done it quite well, unlike other book atrocities which don't even look nice.)

I went to look at their other projects - such organised http://www.designeverydayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/3.jpg>underwear! It does look quite nice, but I am somehow deeply suspicious of anyone together enough to have so many matching sets for everyday use. A friend of mine does that, she said she just assumed it was what you were supposed to do, and was surprised when someone at a party made reference to someone else being the sort of person whose pants always matched their bra as if that were unusual. Maybe I am just a slattern.

Date: 2013-09-30 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
There is a book, I think it is by Michael Frayn, where a bloke sleeps with a woman - I think she is a novelist whose books he teaches at a university - and is shocked! shocked I tell you! that her bra doesn't match her knickers. I can't remember whether this causes him to reassess the literary criticism of her work on which his entire career is based.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
There was a radio phone in I was accidentally listening to once where the (male, of course) host was opining that it was really lazy of women not to match their underwear, and why didn't they just do it.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
He's never had to buy women's underwear, has he?

One of the people I danced with, who was unable to work in a paid job so was supported by her partner, said her partner started exclaiming that she paid £15 for a bra, and was that really necessary? Bloody men. I told her what I paid for mine and she said he'd collapse at the thought of paying that much for a bra.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
Lordy. My dad pretends to think that a pair of shoes costs £10, but he knows he is joking. £15 I would think was quite cheap for a bra, as long as it fit properly!

Date: 2013-09-30 12:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chiasmata
My underwear never matches, unless by accident. Although sometimes I used to match my pants to my socks, just to entertain myself.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
I love the idea of matching socks and pants!

Date: 2013-09-30 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-t.livejournal.com
The bras I buy generally don't have matching pants, and if they do I usually don't like them. The pants I buy don't have matching bras. I quite frequently wear a pale shirt with dark trousers, so while I can generally do 'both plain black' I often don't want to.

Which is to say that I definitely don't go in for matching underwear on ordinary days (I do sometimes, for special occasions). I count it as being terribly co-ordinated if I manage, say, 'has a blue ribbon' or 'has spots' on more than one garment.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
"Has spots" is very coordinated indeed. I have quite a lot of pants that used to have matching bras but which I sold when they stopped fitting, as my top changes shape more than my bottom, and you can't sell used pants on ebay anyway.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com
My underwear never matches either. I pretty much only ever wear black pants and I used to only really have black bras so they would at least be the same colour, but since I got refitted all my new bras are all sorts of different colours and the vast majority of my pants remain black. I do have a matching pant for each bra, but I am keeping the pants for some sort of entirely imaginary and hypothetical 'best', which - I guess? - would involve someone actually SEEING said underwear, but by the time that actually happens I will have worn the bras so much more than the pants that they'll be different colours anyway. Plus if I were to ever go on a date I would probably be so paranoid about jinxing potential future naked action that I couldn't bring myself to wear a matching set anyway.

How do people change their bras, anyway? Are there people out there who wash their bras after a single wash? I certainly don't. Am I a slattern?

I think that headboard is dreadful.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com
*how OFTEN do people change their bras, I mean. I can pretty much manage the mechanics of it.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
Every second day. Same as hairwashing for me. Tomorrow will be clean hair, clean bra day. I am sure it will enhance your tomorrow to know this. ;)

Date: 2013-09-30 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com
My tomorrow is duly enhanced!

I'm more like every four or five days. Is that revolting? I would definitely not wear a t-shirt four or five days in a row, so I guess it's weird that I'm happy to do so with a bra. And I DEFINITELY wouldn't wear pants for more than one day. HELP NOW I AM HAVING A BRA-WASHING INTERNAL CRISIS.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
I may just be more sweaty than you! Sometimes I do go three days in the same bra, but it's rarely more than that.

DO NOT HAVE A CRISIS! IT'S OK! I PROBABLY OVERWASH MY BRAS.

I am not revolted.

Date: 2013-09-30 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serriadh.livejournal.com
I wear a different bra every day, but only wash them about every 2-3 wears, iyswim.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
I think people who always wear matching sets buy several pairs of the pants, maybe? Or they are ridiculously clean. I definitely don't wash my bras after a single wash. I wash my bras when I am too overcome by the stench not to, and not a moment before.

I rarely buy the matching pants because if my bra is £30 (and it often is) then I am not feeling kindly towards spending £10+ on a single pair of knickers. Also they are often thongs or otherwise unflattering on me. I do have quite a pile of pants that used to match bras that I have now sold. I am today wearing a pair of turquoise spotty pants that matched my one-time favourite bra whose underwiring burst free.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com
Yes, I think they must buy multiple sets of the pants. And my objection is similar to yours - I can JUST ABOUT countenance a single pair, but certainly not more than that. (I have stopped buying very cheap pants though, as I find that their elastic gives out so quickly that it's a false economy - so if I am buying M&S pants it's often not that much more to get an on-sale pair of matchy-pants. I won't spend over £10 on pants, though! NEVEEEEER.
Edited Date: 2013-09-30 01:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-30 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
You know, I thought this post might get lots of comments about the book headboard. Instead it is all about the pants!

Date: 2013-09-30 01:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] listersgirl
There does seem to be a pretty strict dividing line between those who always buy matching sets and those who don't. I definitely fall on the don't - besides the fact that I buy specialty bras to get one that fit, but I don't need specialty underwear, I like to wear dark under dark and light under light. Other than with dresses, they rarely line up.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
Often the matching pants are in styles that don't really suit me, or seem ridiculously expensive for what they are - £12 for a plain pair of boyshorts!

Date: 2013-09-30 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
I join you in matching bras/knickers to the garment they are being worn underneath.

Also, bras don't tend to come with matching M&S 5-packs.

Date: 2013-09-30 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com
bras don't tend to come with matching M&S 5-packs.

WHY DON'T THEY? I would buy the hell out of that. Pant-manufacturers, you are missing a trick!

Date: 2013-09-30 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antisoppist.livejournal.com
Because they want you to buy five pairs of the matching pants that cost £15 each?

Date: 2013-09-30 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yiskah.livejournal.com
Well yeah, but wanting you to buy the more expensive version doesn't stop manufacturers of other things from making cheap versions available for those who otherwise wouldn't but the thing at all.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hfnuala.livejournal.com
That would be great!

I recently moved on from 15 years of only ever wearing black M&S knickers and bought a coloured pack of M&S knickers. The kids didn't approve as they fear change.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-30 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com
Welcome to the world of coloured M&S knickers! I have summer and winter ones - identical, except in colour.

(I do have knickers that aren’t M&S 5-packs, but they sit forlorn at the back of the drawer.)

Date: 2013-09-30 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
The headboard is rubbish for all the reasons you mention. S and I were in a cafe yesterday, seated at a table that had some random books on it, so we were looking at them while waiting for our tea/coffee, and they were highly amusing as many of them were old school textbooks. And that is a much better thing to do with old books, to have them where they can be enjoyed, than massacring them to make a stupid headboard. One of the books was called 'Be Prepared' by A. M. Maynard, first published in 1948, although that edition was 1957, so I had a very Chalet School moment while reading it. The owner of the book had written '(PRISON)' after her address and I don't know if she were literally in prison--a prison Guide company would be a brilliant thing--or if she were bewailing the woes of being stuck in Perth.

Re pants/bras:

1) I can't afford to have matching pants for all my bras, because my bras range from £35 Freya bras to £65-75 Prima Donna bras, and the matching knickers are equally pricey. I have very occasionally bought matching PD knickers for bras, but only one pair, so I put the bra back after having worn it once and wait until the pants are washed to wear it again. I wear the matching sets to please myself, but never when I'm having a period.

2) I wear my bras for two days in succession, unless I have done something excessively sweaty, so I'd need two pairs of pants per bra to make them match. That means a full set of underwear could cost me around £150 or so.

3) Apart from the few matched pairs, my pants are black cotton Sloggis, as Sloggi still make theirs with decent, sewn-down, double-layer gussets that have appropriate placement, with black bras. Or else I wear nude-for-me/pale pink/lavender bras that don't show under white/pale tops, with black knickers, because I rarely wear anything on my lower half that I couldn't wear black knickers under.

4) When I have a period, I wear period pants that are old M&S knickers that have wide enough gussets to support
towels. Most of the more recent pants have too narrow gussets to support towels. I know; I've looked and I am grumpy about it. When I'm having my period, the last thing on my mind is whether my knickers match my bras.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
A prison Guide company would be AMAZING. Has anyone tried this to reduce reoffending, I wonder?

Your pants/bra points are all Very Sensible.

Date: 2013-09-30 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
There's even a book that might help! Assuming the previous owner didn't end up as a serial killer. If we go to that cafe together at some point, I will point out the book to you. Assuming some numpty hasn't tried to turn it into a depressing item of furniture.

I have strong feelings about the pants/bra stuff apparently, to the point of making numbered lists about it.

Date: 2013-09-30 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joyeuce
I ordered special pants from Mothercare that were said to be designed to be worn after giving birth. The gussets were so narrow that you wouldn't have got an ordinary slimline sanitary towel on them, let alone a huge maternity pad!

Date: 2013-09-30 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
Grrrrrr! Why would it not surprise me to know that the designers were people who'd never had to wear any kind of pad in their underwear?

Date: 2013-09-30 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmarcie.livejournal.com
Number 4 on your list made me laugh. It's like the Tyburn/London Bridge of books. Traitors beware. Although I can think of a couple of books I would use as warning to other books.

Until I got pregnant I tended to wear matching sets. Buy a bra and two pairs of knickers to go with. Except for when I was having my period when I would wear cotton granny pants. Now I wear cotton granny pants all the time and god I miss the amazing things underwired bras do for your boobs. However, I still try to co-ordinate, today is a white bra with white knickers with a little flower print on them.

Date: 2013-09-30 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
I suppose maybe books would be chastened, and you'd get fewer disappointing endings if they were scared of angering you.

That's very organised of you! I have some admiration for people who are together enough to get their underwear coordinated on a refular basis.

Date: 2013-09-30 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinsense.livejournal.com
I repeatedly wear my bras, though! Over and over! Who has that many bras? (I am definitely a slattern, though.)

I second the feeling that that headboard is a terrible idea. The only books I can think of that would be worth such a treatment is a recently-out-of-date textbook, and that would be marked up and full of ugly diagrams. Also the dust, good lord. It seems vaguely pretentious, really: "I LIKE BOOKS SO MUCH I SLEEP ON THEM." Very good, how morally upright of you.

(Although I'll admit I have more than a few pretentious book moments myself, so I really shouldn't cast stones.)

Date: 2013-09-30 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
I have quite a lot of bras, but only a few I regularly wear. I am ow selling th ones that don't fit, and I might buy all the colours of one I have found that I really like, but then if I put on weight they wouldn't work. Damn clothes.

I too have pretentious book moments, but part of my book pretension is judging others, so.

Date: 2013-09-30 05:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] birdsflying
Matching sets. Ahahaha! The closest I get to matching my bra and pants is probably by shade, so I might manage to wear a 'nude' bra with a similar shade of pants but mostly it's is whatever comes out of the drawer first.

Which is not to say that I don't like the idea of matching sets but the effort is more efforty than I can be bothered with.

Date: 2013-09-30 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
They always look very nice on other people! And on the few occasions I have managed to achieve the look I've felt very snazzy. But yes, the effort is too efforty.

Date: 2013-09-30 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alltheleaves.livejournal.com
The book headboard idea is appalling because you can't turn the pages! Also if you are having sex and you're on top, I can imagine that you can get very easily distracted by the books. What if a sentence catches your eye and suddenly you realise you are now reading while having sex. I would suggest the couple who did this might have planned it this way but they nailed the books open. Which also, argh! Book destruction! I am not always good at looking after books but I don't purposefully destroy them.

At the moment while I am breastfeeding I wear a clean bra every day. I am sweatier and at the beginning I leaked a lot. I also wear bras at night. When not breastfeeding I wore them at least 4 days. I want to wear them less and wash them more often but tend to forget.

Date: 2013-09-30 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slemslempike.livejournal.com
Ha, it is a testament to my current celibacy that I didn't even think of the distraction during certain sexual positions!

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